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Topic: Hay Railroad vehicle Lumber? Posted: xiii Jul 2018 at 11:06am
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A month or then ago, I picked up a overnice Allis Running gear that previously had been a self unloading Silage wagon. Now, all that is left is the wood deck and running gear. Gear is in nice shape and I can hands read the Allis Decal, only the wood deck is shot.
So, my question. What do you guys recommend as a replacement deck?
Have been told to put 2x6 treated natural language & Groove lumber on it, to keep the water from going down through. I don't have an within storage spot to keep it.
Also, accept been told to use rough sawn lumber, Because when wet it should be a non-slip surface. Any dimensional lumber when wet could be slippery.
Anyways, I program to use it for calorie-free use. Haul pumpkins or minor parts, and perchance some hay wagon rides in the fall.
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Post Options Cheers(0) QuoteRespond Posted: xiii Jul 2018 at 11:39am Rough sawed white oak. and cross members the same.... and don't forgit to accidentally spill a good quantity of used diesel oil over them stringers, crossmembers and flooring boards... and let em soak it upwardly. then do it every few years. might last 40 or more years outdoors.
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Post Options Thanks(0) QuoteReply Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 11:49am I disagree with tongue and groove. Yous desire rid of wet the quickest way possible and non to hold it.
I agree with JC, spill some used oil on it and mop it in on one of these hot sunny days while the grain is open.
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Mail Options Thanks(0) QuoteReply Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 11:56amsome around hither that had solid floors on their wagons nailed cobblestone shingles down on top for foot traction. I agree with spacing the boards apart to become rid of rain and melting snow. muddied oil will keep staining peoples wearing apparel and painting hides whatsoever rotting under the pigment. i'd apply linseed oil in a pump sprayer and get it between the boards and up underneath, treat the wood as you build information technology.
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Mail service Options Thank you(0) QuoteReply Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 3:31pmThe kicker wagon we used to sell had a gape betwixt boards that lets the water go threw and nosotros soaked them down every autumn with used motor oil mixed with diesel when they was dry to keep the water from soaking into them because we had to store them outside.
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Post Options Thanks(0) QuoteRespond Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 8:40pm The ones I've seen around hither were all built with rough sawn oak with pocket-sized gaps betwixt the boards. They look pretty when they are new. Information technology'll take a ton of carriage bolts to build i!
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Mail service Options Cheers(0) QuoteReply Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 9:09pmI merely did a new thought 3 axel running gear. I used rough sawn white oak. 4" x six" x xvi' stringers, 3" x four" x 8' cantankerous members and ane.v" ten 6" ten 16' tip boards. If you search this site for new idea the post with pics should come up up
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Post Options Thanks(0) QuoteReply Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 10:03pmHither is a link to Michael Crowe's thread,
Michael, your wagon is looking expert, take you got pictures of it finished?
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Post Options Thanks(0) QuoteReply Posted: 14 Jul 2018 at 7:15amI don't know how to use the quote function simply I simply bet my postal service on my wagon completed pics in the farm section
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Post Options Thank you(0) QuoteReply Posted: xiv Jul 2018 at 7:18amThe 11h Almanac Sectional Air-conditioning Swap Meet will be held in Lathrop, MO, March four-v, 2022. See the club website for details: http://www.moacclub.com
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Post Options Thanks(0) QuoteReply Posted: 14 Jul 2018 at 7:41amWhen I built the wagon, I used pipe clamps to hold the top boards snug against each other, and at present that they have dried and shrunk a bit they accept perchance 3/16" gap between them. I'k taking both my wagons to shoes this summer.
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Postal service Options Thanks(0) QuoteReply Posted: 14 Jul 2018 at 7:41amMichael the link worked and the hay bed turned out awesome. That's the first tandem running gear I've seen. 👍
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Post Options Thanks(0) QuoteAnswer Posted: 14 Jul 2018 at eleven:09amspill some used oil on it and mop it in on ane of these hot sunny days while the grain is open.
exactly what I practise on my freshly done floor on the cargo trailer. Diff is that I used Yellow pine.
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Post Options Thanks(0) QuoteAnswer Posted: 14 Jul 2018 at 12:36pmDave H, Michael has three coats of linseed oil on it now. I know when we congenital our white oak rack, there was several gallons of dieel oilt that got soaked in and had that handling done many times over the years and it lasted shut to twoscore years...simply information technology finally got to onetime out in the elements.
Mike's wagon...
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Postal service Options Thanks(0) QuoteReply Posted: 14 Jul 2018 at 12:50pm Well I will become against the grain and suggest you use pressure treated lumber and be done with it. I do spray my favorite mixture of oil by products on my mower and automobile hauler trailer just it'southward another chore that could be elimated if pressure treated lumber is used.
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Post Options Thanks(0) QuoteReply Posted: 14 Jul 2018 at 1:28pm Anyone call back the sometime creosote or penta-care for products for putting on wood?
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Post Options Thanks(0) QuoteReply Posted: 14 Jul 2018 at five:23pm Oak is very skillful if the wagon is stored inside otherwise the only style to get is treated lumber.
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Postal service Options Thanks(0) QuoteReply Posted: 15 Jul 2018 at 7:55pm
JC(WI) wrote: Anyone retrieve the old creosote or penta-treat products for putting on forest?
Yes that is toxic waste when you take the rotted out role to the dump here in the Land of Fruits and Basics. And then I leave it all to rot away in a gully
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Post Options Cheers(0) QuoteAnswer Posted: xviii Jul 2018 at 9:25pmThanks guys!!!
Well, I was set to start buying lumber for the 'ol railroad vehicle only the car I been driving to work mighta blew an intake gasket. It's leaking coolant pretty good. Put Confined leak in information technology this evening and information technology held up then far.
Probably won't start working on the wagon now until I become the vehicles straigtened out and I know I can spare some $$$ across buying a different car. Will see though...I practise really want to get this wagon finished and resteel my befouled by October. Ain't never enough fourth dimension!!!
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Post Options Thank you(0) QuoteReply Posted: 01 Aug 2018 at 9:30pmAnd then I made some progress on my project, stripped the one-time railroad vehicle deck boards tonight. Just accept to accept off the 1x3" strip boards off the 2x6s in the pictures, then redeck it all.
Cheers again for all the aid and will try to have pics when its washed!
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https://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/media/20180801_190549.119567/full Edited by Don(MI) - 01 Aug 2018 at 9:35pm
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Post Options Thank you(0) QuoteAnswer Posted: 12 Aug 2018 at three:04pm I was wondering where you was on that projection. The other solar day I saw some rough cutting oak on Flint CL. I think it was Flintstone! I believe he said they were 5/4" boards.
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Postal service Options Thanks(0) QuoteRespond Posted: 13 Aug 2018 at 7:11am Gordy wrote: Oak is very good if the carriage is stored inside otherwise the only mode to go is treated lumber.
Treated lumber is the mode I suppose for lasting, just I don't like stacking hay on treated lumber wagons, too dang glace!
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Post Options Thank you(0) QuoteReply Posted: xix Aug 2018 at 8:33amThe only downfall to treating with old engine oil or a diesel fuel/oil mix is that it is very slippery when it gets moisture.
One of our neighbors used a blanket of covering tar thinned with gasoline. He did all the lumber on three sides before building it. He left the bottom of the boards untreated then wet could escape.
Around here, a lot of hay racks are congenital with larch or tamarack. You take to brand sure to get it fastened while it's green. It is virtually impossible to nail subsequently information technology's dried without drilling commencement.
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Post Options Cheers(0) QuoteReply Posted: 09 Sep 2018 at eleven:43pmI run into oak has been the primary wood mentioned for a hay wagon. Has anyone used white ash in building a hay wagon? Nosotros have a good sized woods with a lot of it, and with the coming of the emerald ash tapping, I can make use of it for a hay railroad vehicle. I acquired a Kory running gear from my brother-in-law and am using it know for only hauling logs. With a rack on it, I may be able to use it for more things.
In reading the uses for ash, I was concerned about the warping/dandy/drying out bug. It may or may not be stored inside so I would follow the ideas presented before to preserve the wood.
Any thoughts on this?
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Post Options Thanks(0) QuoteRespond Posted: 10 Sep 2018 at v:47am Joe in Manty wrote: I see oak has been the master woods mentioned for a hay carriage. Has anyone used white ash in edifice a hay wagon? Nosotros have a good sized woods with a lot of information technology, and with the coming of the emerald ash borer, I tin can brand use of it for a hay wagon. I caused a Kory running gear from my brother-in-constabulary and am using it know for but hauling logs. With a rack on it, I may be able to apply information technology for more things.
In reading the uses for ash, I was concerned most the warping/cracking/drying out problems.
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It is stiff plenty, if it sits out in the weather it volition rot much quicker than white oak. When building a railroad vehicle I cut and fit the wood and so coat all the hidden areas with a few coats of drain oil then assemble and a few coats on the finished wagon with a paint roller.
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Post Options Thanks(0) QuoteReply Posted: x Sep 2018 at five:53amI'll 2d that ash doesn't work that well, and treated lumber is slippery and only pine. Oak is my preference.
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